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Basic Lanshop Networking 4 years ago #75237

Just to get new lanshop owners going. This is going to be the most basic, networking setup you can do. just follow each line and you should be ok.

First things first, make sure all your units are in the same workgroup. default workgroup is "WORKGROUP". you may leave this at that.

Make sure your motherboard drivers and lan card drivers are installed with no problems. check in the device manager.

Check your system time! Being too far out of sync with World Time may cause you internet browsing problems.

Things you need:

1. Modem from isp (Your isp should have already tested this for a working internet connection.). This comes with a "crossover cable"; that you will connect to...

2. ...Your router WAN port. (you won't have to do this if your modem has a built in router). Routers have a LAN port (often times 4 ports). if you only have 4 client pcs, you can connect them to these ports, and skip #3.

You will use one of these ports, by using the "straight cable" that came with the router to connect to...

3. ...Your multiported switch via the "uplink port" (if no uplink, just use the last port #). These come in 4,8,12,16,24 ports. sometimes more. Aside from the port that you used to connect your router, you may use the rest to connect as many pc as you can using straight cables.
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let's begin setting up your server (assuming you're using Xp and a D-link router).

- click Start> settings> select Control Panel> on the left side, click on Switch to Classic view> click Network connections> right click Local Area Connection> select Properties> double click TCP/IP
- click Use the following IP address
- for IP address = 192.168.0.10
- press TAB twice (you should get 255.255.255.0 for subnet mask)
- default gateway = 192.168.0.1 <=== router ip address
- DNS: 192.168.0.1 <=== same as your default gateway. (tip from Lex further down this thread)
- click OK

Done!

Using Open DNS
Preferred: 208.67.222.222 ; Alternate: 208.67.220.220 (Open DNS values) <=== you can directly set this in your router settings under "Manual Internet Settings". then keep your Windows' lan DNS settings to your router's ip.

If you want to use your isp's DNS, check your router's detected values under "Status".

Hint: For my router's primary DNS, i use 208.67.222.222
For my router's alternate DNS, i use one of my isp's DNS.
this way, if open dns cannot connect to a website, perhaps my isp dns can.
Print screen
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Note: for your other units, just change the ip address to 192.168.0.XX (where XX is 11(for station 1),12( for station 2) up to your last pc station). Do not use 100 and above, because that's usually reserved for Dynamic connections, and "1" obviously is your router's ip. older D-Link routers used 2-9 for dynamic as default.

Note2: If you have a linksys router, either change the value of the above ip's to 192.168.1.XX, or change your Linksys router's ip to 192.168.0.1

Note3: If your isp gave you a combo modem-router unit, ask them what the ip of the router is. another way is to go to Start> Run> type cmd> in the cmd window type: ipconfig /all

look for the "default gateway" value, and that's what you'll use for your TCP/IP gateway settings.

Note4: If your router has a NAT firewall, you may turn off Windows' firewall to get rid of some LAN gaming problems. The router's NAT firewall is good enough to keep you safe from outside hackers.

Again, for combo modem-router users, ask your isp if the built-in router do have a NAT firewall. most of them do anyway, since it's pretty much a standard protection for routers now. still, make sure before turning your Windows' firewall off.

To test your security, click here. Just wait for the test to finish. All your ports should be invisible to the outside world. Do this test with your Windows' firewall turned off also.

Add ko na dito: UTP cable color coding

For 2 isp connections:

just use 192.168.x.2 as your ip for the 2nd connection sa dual router (or 2nd router).

for windows, set it as your alternate gateway (advanced button on the tcp/ip properties). or you can also use it as the primary gateway for half your clients, and the other one as the alternate.

>Check Fuzzler's post here<


aside from that, everything else is the same. if one isp gets disconnected, the your browser should failover to the alternate gateway by refreshing. unfortunately, this setup means that unless the 2nd gateway gets disconnected, you may have to reboot to connect to the primary gateway again. :-/ (i stumbled on an update fix for this (windows xp failover) in the microsoft website, but i can't find it again! arrgh...)

A Dual WAN router is a better solution and much easier. Open source softwares are also another way to go, but you'll need a dedicated pc (even an old one) for this. Check out Redundant Internet Connections Using Linux. you can also google about Multihoming for other solutions.

Improve Windows Failover
The fix can be located here:
Dead Gateway Detection Does Not Fail Over UDP Traffic to Alternate Gateway
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Re:Basic Lanshop Networking 4 years ago #75245

ahhh...ganun lang pala.......thanks sir bien for the tutorial to the one who does not know how tomake basic networking...thanks again.

Re:Basic Lanshop Networking 4 years ago #75258

Similar thread's:
How to setup Cafe Network? by CrossNodes
Noob guide - NETWORKING 101 by noob
more useful tips on this blog: ezfrancis.blogspot.com

Hope this helps
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Re:Basic Lanshop Networking 4 years ago #75269

sir bien, parang nakalimutan mo i set yung DHCP pool or i turn-off na lang ang DHCP. para iwas lang sa future headace on conflicting IPs.

la din example/instruction on how your router dials or connect to your ISP. some ISP's are PPPoE or PPPoA.<br><br>Post edited by: uveenhacked, at: 2008/02/11 00:57

Re:Basic Lanshop Networking 4 years ago #75270

Bien wrote:


1. Modem from isp. This comes with a \&quot;crossover cable\&quot; that you will connect to...

A crossover cable is an ethernet cable that has two of the wires crossed so that two computers can be connected directly without a router or hub between them.
A modem cable can be a straight telephone wire to connect to the telephone box, whatever wire or cable is used to connect to the cable connection, an ethernet wire to connect to a computer or router or a USB cable to connect to a computer. There is no \&quot;better\&quot; - they all serve different purposes.
There are modem that are router built-in on it. There are also modem that are equipt with straight cable connection,as stated,all it serves its purpose dependeing on what kind of ethernet ports they have,so not all modems are equipt with crossover cable,theres a stand-alone modem with crossover,there is a stand-alone modem with straight termination,a modem/router type is definitely a straight termination.

you may use the rest to connect as many pc as you can using straight cables.

or shall i say,as many available ports as it is.
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let's begin setting up your server (assuming you're using Xp and a D-link router).

- open Control Panel&gt; Network connections&gt; right click Local Area Connection&gt; Properties&gt; double click TCP/IP
- click Use the following IP address
- for IP address = 192.168.0.10
- press TAB twice (you should get 255.255.255.0 for subnet mask)
- default gateway = 192.168.0.1
- DNS: Preferred: 208.67.222.222 ; Alternate: 208.67.220.220 (Open DNS values) If you want to use your isp's DNS, check your router's detected values under \&quot;Status\&quot;.
- click OK

Done!

why should this configured as a public DNS while you can use it same as gateway.
-ip address: 192.168.0.*
-subnetmask: 255.255.255.0
-default gateway = 192.168.0.1
-DNS: Preferred: 192.168.0.1
-Alternate: &lt;leave blank&gt;
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make this configuration same as all of the units.

edit:
by the way, manual dns configuration such as that www.opendns.com dns only should happen to router GUI(Graphical User Interface) or modem/router gui page<br><br>Post edited by: Mr. Lex Luthor, at: 2008/02/11 01:50

Re:Basic Lanshop Networking 4 years ago #75273

uveenhacked wrote:
sir bien, parang nakalimutan mo i set yung DHCP pool or i turn-off na lang ang DHCP. para iwas lang sa future headace on conflicting IPs.

la din example/instruction on how your router dials or connect to your ISP. some ISP's are PPPoE or PPPoA.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Post edited by: uveenhacked, at: 2008/02/11 00:57


actually, when your isp brings your modem, it's already set up to connect to the internet. i didn't dwell on that kasi madami nang threads tungkol sa networking. they can check those out as kosang kaotzki pointed out.

medyo dumadami lang kasi nagpapatulong mag setup ng static ip sa network nila araw araw, so i just posted it on a new thread para madali nilang makita.

as i stated in the title, this is basic for the laymen to follow. it's not for advanced users obviously. laymen get lost with too many technical jargons. ^^

you're right about the DHCP though. i may include it on the original post. although some DHCP are set to 2-9 by default. new routers are 100-199. how many lanshops out there uses one router for 90 units? that's how many units that will be needed to start having conflicts when starting at 192.168.0.11<br><br>Post edited by: Bien, at: 2008/02/11 02:34
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Re:Basic Lanshop Networking 4 years ago #75276

Mr. Lex Luthor wrote:


by the way, manual dns configuration such as that www.opendns.com dns only should happen to router GUI(Graphical User Interface) or modem/router gui page&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Post edited by: Mr. Lex Luthor, at: 2008/02/11 01:50


even if you only set it on windows' TCP/IP settings, it would work. works for me anyway.
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Re:Basic Lanshop Networking 4 years ago #75277

Bien wrote:
Mr. Lex Luthor wrote:


by the way, manual dns configuration such as that www.opendns.com dns only should happen to router GUI(Graphical User Interface) or modem/router gui page&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Post edited by: Mr. Lex Luthor, at: 2008/02/11 01:50


even if you only set it on windows' TCP/IP settings, it would work. works for me anyway.


tama si sir bien, pede rin sa tcp/ip
e2 guide ng opendns para sa tcp/ip for windows xp

www.opendns.com/start?device=windows-xp
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Re:Basic Lanshop Networking 4 years ago #75278

nobody says it will not work,i know it will work,but you are talking about basic lanshop setup,right? but you only have to do the manual opendns setting to a your router or modem/router and basically it is less effort to all pc client if you just make your preferred dns same as your gateway?
gateway and preferred dns are in same format if you are connected to a router= gateway+ preferred dns = 192.168.1.*,no need to input the 202.222.*.*.

Re:Basic Lanshop Networking 4 years ago #75280

i actually tried kosang Lex's advice. i'm kinda suprrised it worked! lol.

bear in mind this will not work for all routers though.

\&quot;Some routers will do the DNS forwarding for you..so they'll hand themselves out as the DNS servers. Other routers wont. I prefer to directly enter the ISPs DNS servers versus using the router. Once less hop, better performance. On the downside...if your ISP changes their DNS servers IPs (something that rarely happens)...your setup will stop working. If you use your router, updates will come down via DHCP.\&quot;- source

pldt changed DNS on me once. open dns on the other hand has no plans on doing that. their business rests on those specific dns addresses.<br><br>Post edited by: Bien, at: 2008/02/11 03:30
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